Nobody knew? No, nobodies knew about the dangers of Iraq

Last Tuesday Glenn Greenwald was right to call out the Washington media on the stupidity of excusing their cheerleading for the War on Iraq seven years ago with the idea that “nobody knew” it would be like this:

I could literally spend the rest of the day quoting those who were issuing similar or even more strident warnings. Anyone who claims they didn’t realize that an attack on Iraq could spawn mammoth civilian casualties, pervasive displacement, endless occupation and intense anti-American hatred is indicting themselves more powerfully than it’s possible for anyone else to do. And anyone who claims, as Burns did, that they “could not know then” that these things might very well happen is simply not telling the truth. They could have known. And should have known. They chose not to.

While Avedon Carol is also right to notice that he had missed one particular high profile politician who had been arguing against the invasion from the start, somebody who should have been taken serious but wasn’t, because, well:

Oddly, Glennzilla does not mention in his list of people who predicted disaster if we invaded Iraq one of the foremost voices who was inexplicably dismissed and derided by the entire press corps, presumably because the man we had elected to be President of the United States is fat.

What both miss however is something much more important: “nobody knew” inside the Washington Beltway what a disaster the War on Iraq would become, but outside it, “nobodies knew” it was a bad idea from the start. At least fifteen million people worldwide demonstrated against the war back on the 15 Februari 2003, with the largest demonstration ever held taking place in London that day and huge demonstrations all over America and Europe, smaller ones in Africa and Asia and South America and Australia and even one in Antarctica (!)

All us little people outside of the loop and not professionally blind to the idea that invading a country on spurious grounds is in itself a bad idea were perfectly aware the War on Iraq was going to be a disaster. We knew that the best we could hope for was a repeat of the first American-Iraqi Gulf War, a US blitzkrieg that would once again kill thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians and deliver the final blow to an infrastructure that was never allowed to recover from the first war. Literally no one I spoke to during the runup to the war — family, friends, coworkers, passing strangers — no matter their political allegiance thought it was a good idea. And while the serious people would later grudgingly accept that we were right, they’ve never given us credit for it, prefering to think our opposition was just an emotional reflex rather than a reasoned position…

Miliband: I have always been against war with Eurasia

Isn’t it amazing how solidly opposed all the Labour leadership candidates are against the War on Iraq now, seven years after it mattered? Mark Steel certainly thinks so:

David Miliband, the only one lucky enough to be an MP at the time, says he supported the war because of evidence of Saddam’s famous “weapons”, adding he would have opposed it “if we had known then what we know now”. But the only reason people believed Saddam had those weapons was because Miliband’s government was telling everyone he did. So, he’s saying:”If I’d known I was lying it would have been different, but how could I possibly know I was making stuff up? You can’t blame me for fooling myself, as I’m very persuasive.”

MPAA: objectively pro-terrorist

The MPAA fights the hardest battle of all against torrenting soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan:

One of the questions posed by the MPAA is whether they have banned U.S. troops from going to stores that sell pirated DVDs. The Central Command answered this question negatively, as it would hurt the business of Iraqi salesmen.

“No….banning our troops from visiting these shops would have the unwelcome secondary effect of harming Iraqi entrepreneurs selling legitimate goods.” They add that there is nothing they can do about DVDs that are being sold on Iraqi property because these stores fall under Iraqi law.

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Pirated DVDs are not the only worry for the MPAA as more recently military personnel have also been using BitTorrent to access U.S. entertainment on foreign bases. A military insider told TorrentFreak that they see no other option than to ‘pirate’, as the entertainment industry gives them little opportunity to enjoy digital media legally.

“We have sent letters to the RIAA and the MPAA repeatedly letting them know that our downloads are a direct representation of their failure to allow us to be good consumers as others in the US can be,” our military insider explained.

Instead of holding out a helping hand to deployed soldiers, the entertainment industries continue to treat them as criminals. On a daily basis, the MPAA and RIAA send copyright notices to military personnel via their base ISPs. In turn, the personnel are threatened with account suspension and in serious cases, disconnection.

Not to get too sanctimoniously outraged on behalve of US soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq, as they shouldn’t be there anyway, but it’s typical of the respect these soldiers are hold in by the companies that made billions of these wars… If you’re a soldier, you’re a sucker.

Not moving on



David Miliband thinks voters should stop punishing Labour for the WAr on Iraq. Quoth FlyingRodent:

The British Government, ladies and gentlemen – grovellingly apologetic for charging a few flatscreen TVs to the public purse.

But perpetually petulant with endless butthurt that people won’t stop going on and on about the catastrophic, mega-billion pound military bloodbath.

Are we living in a world in which Blair is as pacing his narrow cell at Den Haag, awaiting the verdict of the court, haunted by the ghosts of his victims, his life ruined, the last to be sentenced, his peers and former colleagues who voted for the war already locked up? Or are we in a world in which he’s swanning about the globe calling himself a peace envoy to the Middle East, the fact that he isn’t struck down by lightning the first time he said that the clearest possible proof for the non-existence of a just god, a multimillionaire, amply rewarded for his crimes? Until the former is true rather than the latter, Miliband can whistle for his clemency.

And no, it’s not just British voters who think this way, as Malaysian anti-war activists tried to serve him with an indictment for war crimes. The video at the top of the post shows the warm reception Blair got. If Blair dies in a fire it’s still too good for him.

Hell no this was no accident!



Some thoughts: does anybody really believe this was an accident rather than premeditated? Even on just the evidence in the video the helicopter crew was mighty casual about killing the first group of people, while the attack on civilians attempting to carry off the wounded and dead is a straight warcrime. But put this atrocity in context: two of the people killed were journalists, in a war in which non-embedded journalists often seemed acceptable targets to the US military — the attack on the Al Jazeera office in Kabul, the shooting of that Baghdad hotel many journalists stayed at, various other careless or targeted killings. Each time the military had an excuse, some explenation for their mistakes, but put them all together and it’s clear that if the army doesn’t deliberately sets out to kill uncontrolled journalists, it at the very least doesn’t care if it does so.

Also, also: remember that story back in 2005 about the Al-Jazeera bombing memo? That showed that Bush was talking about bombing the Al-Jazeera offices in Qatar during the attack on Fallujah in 2004. If the US considered that kind of action outside of Iraq, it’s no surprise unfriendly journalists inside Iraq tended to die or disappear… Most of the cases that get attention in the American and European media concern western journalists; but many more Iraqi journalists have been killed as well, either by the Americans or Iraqi internal security.

And of course excuses can and were made in each case: that’s not the point. When there’s a pattern of such killings, during an already illegal and immoral wars, such mistakes are murders. These accidents fit a long standing US army policy of “controlling the information battlefield” by embedding journalists and denying independent reporters access — if a few of the latter are killed on the battlefield, no great loss…